i'm going to put my head on the block here... and possibly alienate some of you in doing so.
i'm new to the forum.
forgive me, i don't have time to read up the whole history of threads here, much as i'd love to, so if this subject has been discussed already (as i'm sure it must have) then apologies .
Hi May:
I was also a witness for 26 years..and a full time pioneer for last 5 and before that an auxillery pioneer..I left in Sept 2005..
I also love Jesus with all my heart and think the witnesses don't give him enough honor. Also, like you, don't want to join another religion.. Although I go on phone conference calls with Bible Students but most consider themselves as free bible students.. willing to believe things outside of the doctrines..
Good to meet you and welcome.
No, Jesus was a free spirit, full of love and truth, as they don't have any of that..
we started attending the wakefield r.i. kh after the marriage.
at the first meeting i went to, "buddy" weber came up to greet me.
he had left a very good job in seattle (he had his own radio talk show) and was now a janitor, living were the need was greatest, at the time r.i had the worst publisher to normal people ratio in the counrty 1 to 1600. i'm just standing there listening to him as he is giving me the "what he has done for jehovah story" what his "spiritual credentials" are, how wonderful his kids are, were they were pioneering, how he had givien up a good job so he could serve the lord my cleaning windows in rhode island............because the end was coming soon in 1975, just a few months away blah blah.......blah.......it reminded me, so much how the jws love to martyr themselfs and how much they say "we are all equal".......but on the other hand, they love poistions, that deep down inside they believe that some are really better then others and that they are working there way into the "new system".
Hi New Boy:
Really love your stories, please keep writing them..
today was parent day at jun's preschool.. and they do the pledge of allegiance.. it was funny because i was stumbling through it trying to remember it.. in all honesty, it wasn't a moment where i thought oh yay!
it was more like, eh, whatever, it's a flag.. .
it was interesting.. .
Another milestone.. Black Swan:
For me though, no flag saluted under the evils of W. I won't salute again until Jesus rules.
we're having my seven-year-olds first birthday party at the local chuck e. cheese (yeah, i know but it's what he wanted).
i don't especially care, but if a dub sees us and reports us (as you know they would), can be we be df'd?
like i said, i don't particularly care, and wouldn't be sorry either.
I think it would matter if you were still attending any meetings or associating with any of the dubs regularly...
if you believe you are anointed, please give the details on how you came to this conclusion.
this is not a judgemental post, so all those with negative comments please keep them to yourself.
this is a quest for facts and answers, nothing more.
Hello Unbaptized:
If you have left go back and resume your share of the ministry. Do not let anything stop you from serving the true GOD
And as far as the GB is concerned, they are still our brothers. They have GOD's blessing to feed the flock at the proper time. Do not find yourself fighting against GOD because some do not share your joy.
Yikes, are you trying to get me to go back to the WT..??? You are telling me, the GB has God's blessing.. And if I fight against the WT, I'm fighting against God....??????
Uhhh, no, don't think so.. You are not hearing the same drummer as me.
well have some time so thought to write this.... i went today to uni to speak to my supervisor and he asked me a question that locked me in my chair for few milliseconds.
he asked "where do you see yourself in next 5 years....and beyond that" then he went "... or better still imagine yourself in time 5 years from now, what would you like to have achieved?".
though knowing full well what two 'things' i really wanted to have in my life more than anything i was really locked into this moment almost powerless, because his next question was that 'one inch' punch which blew me off as if struck my bruce lee himself, he asked "...and what are you doing now to make sure that really happens that way?".
I like to picture myself in the new world, under God and Christ.
if you believe you are anointed, please give the details on how you came to this conclusion.
this is not a judgemental post, so all those with negative comments please keep them to yourself.
this is a quest for facts and answers, nothing more.
Hello there:
Unbaptized: Good point about people thinking John the baptizer as being mad...(Jesus as well).. Also David's anointing not being knowledge to all.. Reminds me of this script:
Rev. 2:17.......And upon the pebble a new name written which no one know except the one receiving it.
Also liked you point about Joseph, and his dreams corresponding to the anointed being told by God that they are anointed.. But, if we recall, his dream really made alot of people angry, even his father Jacob. The witnesses think that ANY communication, in any way from God is DEMONISM>
Greendawn...I don't know where those elders get off., telling me I definately wasn't anointed.. Geez, I was full time pioneering, and that still didn't get me any points with them. To me, the GB at this time...is totally unspirited. That being said, it's hard to imagine a spirited person, running such an unspirited borg.
Also, Excel: You said:
Should the person develope uncertainty regarding their status before God, Jesus words can set the person straight when he said
"You did not choose me, but I choose You..." John 15:16
This is very beautiful, as I looked it up and the surrounding verses.
most of us went back to bethel, thinking we wanted to make it our life long career......what better place to be right before 1975?.............that dream ended for the vast majority after just few months there, when they found out that something was very wrong.
other wise why would anyone want to leave a spiritual paradice?....
with only 2-5% staying after there 4 year commitment, and a very big percentage leaving before there time was even up.
Dear New Boy:
I am thoroughly enjoying you stories...Thanks.. I was a serious witness, pioneer..for 5 years..witness for 26 ...just left in 2005. Looking forward to more. Love, Star
Dear Drew,
I believe you are 100% right on your reasoning. When we die and are acquitted of our sins is at our BAPTISM. When we die, in a physical way, I believe that this scripture applies..:
John 5:28 ....Hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a ressurection of life and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgement.
So, we ARE accountable for what we do in this world.
